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Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion

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Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs; Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase and Co.; Robert P.Kelly, CEO of the Bank of New York; Ken Lewis, CEO of the Bank of America; Ronald E. Logue, CEO of State Street; John Mack, CEO of Morgan Stanley; Vikram Pandit, CEO of Citigroup; and John Stumpf, CEO of Wells Fargo, testify during the House Financial Services oversight hearing of the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP).
Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs; Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase and Co.; Robert P.Kelly, CEO of the Bank of New York; Ken Lewis, CEO of the Bank of America; Ronald E. Logue, CEO of State Street; John Mack, CEO of Morgan Stanley; Vikram Pandit, CEO of Citigroup; and John Stumpf, CEO of Wells Fargo, testify during the House Financial Services oversight hearing of the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP). Photographer: Scott J. Ferrell/Congressional Quarterly/Getty Images
Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) — The Federal Reserve’s unprecedented effort to keep the economy from plunging into depression included lending banks and other companies as much as $1.2 trillion of public money. The largest borrower, Morgan Stanley, got as much as $107.3 billion, while Citigroup Inc. took $99.5 billion and Bank of America Corp. $91.4 billion, according to a Bloomberg News compilation of data obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests, months of litigation and an act of Congress. Erik Schatzker and Sara Eisen report on Bloomberg Television’s “InsideTrack.” (Source: Bloomberg)
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) — Robert E. Litan, a former Justice Department official who in the 1990s served on a commission probing the causes of the savings and loan crisis, now vice president at the Kansas City, Missouri-based Kauffman Foundation, Richard Herring, a finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania, Roger Lister, a former Fed economist who’s now head of financial-institutions coverage at credit-rating firm DBRS Inc., and Kenneth Rogoff, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and now an economics professor at Harvard University, talk about the U.S. government’s $1.2 trillion bailout of the banking system and the outlook for regulatory overhaul of the industry. (Source: Bloomberg)
Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) — Neil Barofsky, former special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program and a Bloomberg Television contributing editor, talks about the Federal Reserve’s emergency loans during the financial crisis. Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s effort to keep the economy from plunging into depression included lending banks and other companies as much as $1.2 trillion of public money, according to a Bloomberg News compilation of data obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests, months of litigation and an act of Congress. Barofsky speaks with Erik Schatzker on Bloomberg Television’s “InsideTrack.” (Source: Bloomberg)
Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) — Charles Peabody, an analyst at Portales Partners LLC, and Bloomberg reporter Bradley Keoun discuss the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending programs and the capital position of U.S. banks. They speak with Erik Schatzker and Michael McKee on Bloomberg Television’s “InsideTrack.” (Source: Bloomberg)
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

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Chief executive officers from eight of the largest U.S. banks receiving government aid testify at a House Financial Services Committee hearing in Washington, D.C on Feb. 11, 2009.
Chief executive officers from eight of the largest U.S. banks receiving government aid testify at a House Financial Services Committee hearing in Washington, D.C on Feb. 11, 2009. Photographer: Brendan Smialowski/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

Two weeks after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.’s bankruptcy triggered a global credit crisis, Morgan Stanley countered concerns that it might be next to go by announcing it had ‘strong capital and liquidity positions.’
Two weeks after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.’s bankruptcy triggered a global credit crisis, Morgan Stanley countered concerns that it might be next to go by announcing it had ‘strong capital and liquidity positions.’ Photographer: Jeremy Bales/Bloomberg
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Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2T in Loans

A Wall Street sign stands outside the New York Stock Exchange in New York, U.S. The loans dwarfed the $160 billion in public bailouts the top 10 got from the U.S. Treasury, yet until now the full amounts have remained secret.
A Wall Street sign stands outside the New York Stock Exchange in New York, U.S. The loans dwarfed the $160 billion in public bailouts the top 10 got from the U.S. Treasury, yet until now the full amounts have remained secret. Photographer: JB Reed/Bloomberg
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Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2T in Loans

Citigroup Inc., along with Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc., were the biggest borrowers under seven U.S. Federal Reserve emergency-lending programs.
Citigroup Inc., along with Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc., were the biggest borrowers under seven U.S. Federal Reserve emergency-lending programs. Photographer: Robert Caplin/Bloomberg
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The Fed’s Secret Liquidity Lifelines

The Federal Reserve provided as much as $1.2 tillion in public money to banks and other companies from August 2007 through April 2010 to head off a depression.
The Federal Reserve provided as much as $1.2 tillion in public money to banks and other companies from August 2007 through April 2010 to head off a depression. Source: Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

Morgan Stanley, along with Citigroup Inc., and Bank of America Corp., were the biggest borrowers under seven Fed emergency-lending programs. The three banks’ combined $298.2 billion in hidden Fed loans was triple what they received in publicly disclosed bailouts from the U.S. Treasury.
Morgan Stanley, along with Citigroup Inc., and Bank of America Corp., were the biggest borrowers under seven Fed emergency-lending programs. The three banks’ combined $298.2 billion in hidden Fed loans was triple what they received in publicly disclosed bailouts from the U.S. Treasury. Photographer: Peter Foley/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

Bank of America Corp., along with Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc. was one of the biggest borrowers under the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs. The three banks’ combined $298.2 billion in hidden Fed loans was triple what they received in publicly disclosed bailouts from the U.S. Treasury.
Bank of America Corp., along with Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc. was one of the biggest borrowers under the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs. The three banks’ combined $298.2 billion in hidden Fed loans was triple what they received in publicly disclosed bailouts from the U.S. Treasury. Photographer: Jeremy Bales/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

The Royal Bank of Scotland took $84.5 billion in loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs.
The Royal Bank of Scotland took $84.5 billion in loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs. Photographer: Simon Dawson/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

UBS AG, Switzerland’s biggest bank, got $77.2 billion in loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs.
UBS AG, Switzerland’s biggest bank, got $77.2 billion in loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve’s emergency-lending programs. Photographer: Gianluca Colla/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the fifth-biggest U.S. bank by assets.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the fifth-biggest U.S. bank by assets. Photographer: Scott Eells/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

U.S. Federal Reserve borrowings by Societe Generale SA, France’s second-biggest bank, peaked at $17.4 billion in May 2008, four months after the Paris-based lender announced a record 4.9 billion-euro ($7.2 billion) loss on unauthorizedstock-index futures bets by former trader Jerome Kerviel.
U.S. Federal Reserve borrowings by Societe Generale SA, France’s second-biggest bank, peaked at $17.4 billion in May 2008, four months after the Paris-based lender announced a record 4.9 billion-euro ($7.2 billion) loss on unauthorizedstock-index futures bets by former trader Jerome Kerviel. Photographer: Judith White/Bloomberg
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Finance ‘Aristocracy’ Took $1.2 Trillion in Loans

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U.S. Federal Reserve borrowings by Societe Generale SA, France’s second-biggest bank, peaked at $17.4 billion in May 2008, four months after the Paris-based lender announced a record 4.9 billion-euro ($7.2 billion) loss on unauthorized stock-index futures bets by former trader Jerome Kerviel.
U.S. Federal Reserve borrowings by Societe Generale SA, France’s second-biggest bank, peaked at $17.4 billion in May 2008, four months after the Paris-based lender announced a record 4.9 billion-euro ($7.2 billion) loss on unauthorized stock-index futures bets by former trader Jerome Kerviel. Photographer: Antoine Antoniol/Bloomberg
Citigroup Inc. (C) and Bank of America Corp. (BAC) were the reigning champions of finance in 2006 as home prices peaked, leading the 10 biggest U.S. banks and brokerage firms to their best year ever with $104 billion of profits.
By 2008, the housing market’s collapse forced those companies to take more than six times as much, $669 billion, in emergency loans from the U.S. Federal Reserve. The loans dwarfed the $160 billion in public bailouts the top 10 got from the U.S. Treasury, yet until now the full amounts have remained secret.
Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s unprecedented effort to keep the economy from plunging into depression included lending banks and other companies as much as $1.2 trillion of public money, about the same amount U.S. homeowners currently owe on 6.5 million delinquent and foreclosed mortgages. The largest borrower, Morgan Stanley (MS), got as much as $107.3 billion, while Citigroup took $99.5 billion and Bank of America $91.4 billion, according to a Bloomberg News compilation of data obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests, months of litigation and an act of Congress.
“These are all whopping numbers,” said Robert Litan, a former Justice Department official who in the 1990s served on a commission probing the causes of the savings and loan crisis. “You’re talking about the aristocracy of American finance going down the tubes without the federal money.”
(View the Bloomberg interactive graphic to chart the Fed’s financial bailout.)
Foreign Borrowers
It wasn’t just American finance. Almost half of the Fed’s top 30 borrowers, measured by peak balances, were European firms. They included Edinburgh-based Royal Bank of Scotland Plc, which took $84.5 billion, the most of any non-U.S. lender, and Zurich-based UBS AG (UBSN), which got $77.2 billion. Germany’s Hypo Real Estate Holding AG borrowed $28.7 billion, an average of $21 million for each of its 1,366 employees.
The largest borrowers also included Dexia SA (DEXB), Belgium’s biggest bank by assets, and Societe Generale SA, based in Paris, whose bond-insurance prices have surged in the past month as investors speculated that the spreading sovereign debt crisis in Europe might increase their chances of default.
The $1.2 trillion peak on Dec. 5, 2008 — the combined outstanding balance under the seven programs tallied by Bloomberg — was almost three times the size of the U.S. federal budget deficit that year and more than the total earnings of all federally insured banks in the U.S. for the decade through 2010, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Peak Balance
The balance was more than 25 times the Fed’s pre-crisis lending peak of $46 billion on Sept. 12, 2001, the day after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon. Denominated in $1 bills, the $1.2 trillion would fill 539 Olympic-size swimming pools.
The Fed has said it had “no credit losses” on any of the emergency programs, and a report by Federal Reserve Bank of New York staffers in February said the central bank netted $13 billion in interest and fee income from the programs from August 2007 through December 2009.
“We designed our broad-based emergency programs to both effectively stem the crisis and minimize the financial risks to the U.S. taxpayer,” said James Clouse, deputy director of the Fed’s division of monetary affairs in Washington. “Nearly all of our emergency-lending programs have been closed. We have incurred no losses and expect no losses.”
While the 18-month U.S. recession that ended in June 2009 after a 5.1 percent contraction in gross domestic product was nowhere near the four-year, 27 percent decline between August 1929 and March 1933, banks and the economy remain stressed.
Odds of Recession
The odds of another recession have climbed during the past six months, according to five of nine economists on the Business Cycle Dating Committee of the National Bureau of Economic Research, an academic panel that dates recessions.
Bank of America’s bond-insurance prices last week surged to a rate of $342,040 a year for coverage on $10 million of debt, above where Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEHMQ)’s bond insurance was priced at the start of the week before the firm collapsed. Citigroup’s shares are trading below the split-adjusted price of $28 that they hit on the day the bank’s Fed loans peaked in January 2009. The U.S. unemployment rate was at 9.1 percent in July, compared with 4.7 percent in November 2007, before the recession began.
Homeowners are more than 30 days past due on their mortgage payments on 4.38 million properties in the U.S., and 2.16 million more properties are in foreclosure, representing a combined $1.27 trillion of unpaid principal, estimates Jacksonville, Florida-based Lender Processing Services Inc.
Liquidity Requirements
“Why in hell does the Federal Reserve seem to be able to find the way to help these entities that are gigantic?” U.S. Representative Walter B. Jones, a Republican from North Carolina, said at a June 1 congressional hearing in Washington on Fed lending disclosure. “They get help when the average businessperson down in eastern North Carolina, and probably across America, they can’t even go to a bank they’ve been banking with for 15 or 20 years and get a loan.”
The sheer size of the Fed loans bolsters the case for minimum liquidity requirements that global regulators last year agreed to impose on banks for the first time, said Litan, now a vice president at the Kansas City, Missouri-based Kauffman Foundation, which supports entrepreneurship research. Liquidity refers to the daily funds a bank needs to operate, including cash to cover depositor withdrawals.
The rules, which mandate that banks keep enough cash and easily liquidated assets on hand to survive a 30-day crisis, don’t take effect until 2015. Another proposed requirement for lenders to keep “stable funding” for a one-year horizon was postponed until at least 2018 after banks showed they’d have to raise as much as $6 trillion in new long-term debt to comply.
‘Stark Illustration’
Regulators are “not going to go far enough to prevent this from happening again,” said Kenneth Rogoff, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and now an economics professor at Harvard University.
Reforms undertaken since the crisis might not insulate U.S. markets and financial institutions from the sovereign budget and debt crises facing Greece, Ireland and Portugal, according to the U.S. Financial Stability Oversight Council, a 10-member body created by the Dodd-Frank Act and led by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.
“The recent financial crisis provides a stark illustration of how quickly confidence can erode and financial contagion can spread,” the council said in its July 26 report.
21,000 Transactions
Any new rescues by the U.S. central bank would be governed by transparency laws adopted in 2010 that require the Fed to disclose borrowers after two years.
Fed officials argued for more than two years that releasing the identities of borrowers and the terms of their loans would stigmatize banks, damaging stock prices or leading to depositor runs. A group of the biggest commercial banks last year asked the U.S. Supreme Court to keep at least some Fed borrowings secret. In March, the high court declined to hear that appeal, and the central bank made an unprecedented release of records.
Data gleaned from 29,346 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and from other Fed databases of more than 21,000 transactions make clear for the first time how deeply the world’s largest banks depended on the U.S. central bank to stave off cash shortfalls. Even as the firms asserted in news releases or earnings calls that they had ample cash, they drew Fed funding in secret, avoiding the stigma of weakness.
Morgan Stanley Borrowing
Two weeks after Lehman’s bankruptcy in September 2008, Morgan Stanley countered concerns that it might be next to go by announcing it had “strong capital and liquidity positions.” The statement, in a Sept. 29, 2008, press release about a $9 billion investment from Tokyo-based Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc., said nothing about Morgan Stanley’s Fed loans.
That was the same day as the firm’s $107.3 billion peak in borrowing from the central bank, which was the source of almost all of Morgan Stanley’s available cash, according to the lending data and documents released more than two years later by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. The amount was almost three times the company’s total profits over the past decade, data compiled by Bloomberg show.
Mark Lake, a spokesman for New York-based Morgan Stanley, said the crisis caused the industry to “fundamentally re- evaluate” the way it manages its cash.
“We have taken the lessons we learned from that period and applied them to our liquidity-management program to protect both our franchise and our clients going forward,” Lake said. He declined to say what changes the bank had made.
Acceptable Collateral
In most cases, the Fed demanded collateral for its loans — Treasuries or corporate bonds and mortgage bonds that could be seized and sold if the money wasn’t repaid. That meant the central bank’s main risk was that collateral pledged by banks that collapsed would be worth less than the amount borrowed.
As the crisis deepened, the Fed relaxed its standards for acceptable collateral. Typically, the central bank accepts only bonds with the highest credit grades, such as U.S. Treasuries. By late 2008, it was accepting “junk” bonds, those rated below investment grade. It even took stocks, which are first to get wiped out in a liquidation.
Morgan Stanley borrowed $61.3 billion from one Fed program in September 2008, pledging a total of $66.5 billion of collateral, according to Fed documents. Securities pledged included $21.5 billion of stocks, $6.68 billion of bonds with a junk credit rating and $19.5 billion of assets with an “unknown rating,” according to the documents. About 25 percent of the collateral was foreign-denominated.
‘Willingness to Lend’
“What you’re looking at is a willingness to lend against just about anything,” said Robert Eisenbeis, a former research director at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta and now chief monetary economist in Atlanta for Sarasota, Florida-based Cumberland Advisors Inc.
The lack of private-market alternatives for lending shows how skeptical trading partners and depositors were about the value of the banks’ capital and collateral, Eisenbeis said.
“The markets were just plain shut,” said Tanya Azarchs, former head of bank research at Standard & Poor’s and now an independent consultant in Briarcliff Manor, New York. “If you needed liquidity, there was only one place to go.”
Even banks that survived the crisis without government capital injections tapped the Fed through programs that promised confidentiality. London-based Barclays Plc (BARC) borrowed $64.9 billion and Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank AG (DBK) got $66 billion. Sarah MacDonald, a spokeswoman for Barclays, and John Gallagher, a spokesman for Deutsche Bank, declined to comment.
Below-Market Rates
While the Fed’s last-resort lending programs generally charge above-market interest rates to deter routine borrowing, that practice sometimes flipped during the crisis. On Oct. 20, 2008, for example, the central bank agreed to make $113.3 billion of 28-day loans through its Term Auction Facility at a rate of 1.1 percent, according to a press release at the time.
The rate was less than a third of the 3.8 percent that banks were charging each other to make one-month loans on that day. Bank of America and Wachovia Corp. each got $15 billion of the 1.1 percent TAF loans, followed by Royal Bank of Scotland’s RBS Citizens NA unit with $10 billion, Fed data show.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), the New York-based lender that touted its “fortress balance sheet” at least 16 times in press releases and conference calls from October 2007 through February 2010, took as much as $48 billion in February 2009 from TAF. The facility, set up in December 2007, was a temporary alternative to the discount window, the central bank’s 97-year-old primary lending program to help banks in a cash squeeze.
‘Larger Than TARP’
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), which in 2007 was the most profitable securities firm in Wall Street history, borrowed $69 billion from the Fed on Dec. 31, 2008. Among the programs New York-based Goldman Sachs tapped after the Lehman bankruptcy was the Primary Dealer Credit Facility, or PDCF, designed to lend money to brokerage firms ineligible for the Fed’s bank-lending programs.
Michael Duvally, a spokesman for Goldman Sachs, declined to comment.
The Fed’s liquidity lifelines may increase the chances that banks engage in excessive risk-taking with borrowed money, Rogoff said. Such a phenomenon, known as moral hazard, occurs if banks assume the Fed will be there when they need it, he said. The size of bank borrowings “certainly shows the Fed bailout was in many ways much larger than TARP,” Rogoff said.
TARP is the Treasury Department’s Troubled Asset Relief Program, a $700 billion bank-bailout fund that provided capital injections of $45 billion each to Citigroup and Bank of America, and $10 billion to Morgan Stanley. Because most of the Treasury’s investments were made in the form of preferred stock, they were considered riskier than the Fed’s loans, a type of senior debt.
Dodd-Frank Requirement
In December, in response to the Dodd-Frank Act, the Fed released 18 databases detailing its temporary emergency-lending programs.
Congress required the disclosure after the Fed rejected requests in 2008 from the late Bloomberg News reporter Mark Pittman and other media companies that sought details of its loans under the Freedom of Information Act. After fighting to keep the data secret, the central bank released unprecedented information about its discount window and other programs under court order in March 2011.
Bloomberg News combined Fed databases made available in December and July with the discount-window records released in March to produce daily totals for banks across all the programs, including the Asset-Backed Commercial Paper Money Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility, Commercial Paper Funding Facility, discount window, PDCF, TAF, Term Securities Lending Facility and single-tranche open market operations. The programs supplied loans from August 2007 through April 2010.
Rolling Crisis
The result is a timeline illustrating how the credit crisis rolled from one bank to another as financial contagion spread.
Fed borrowings by Societe Generale (GLE), France’s second-biggest bank, peaked at $17.4 billion in May 2008, four months after the Paris-based lender announced a record 4.9 billion-euro ($7.2 billion) loss on unauthorized stock-index futures bets by former trader Jerome Kerviel.
Morgan Stanley’s top borrowing came four months later, after Lehman’s bankruptcy. Citigroup crested in January 2009, as did 43 other banks, the largest number of peak borrowings for any month during the crisis. Bank of America’s heaviest borrowings came two months after that.
Sixteen banks, including Plano, Texas-based Beal Financial Corp. and Jacksonville, Florida-based EverBank Financial Corp., didn’t hit their peaks until February or March 2010.
Using Subsidiaries
“At no point was there a material risk to the Fed or the taxpayer, as the loan required collateralization,” said Reshma Fernandes, a spokeswoman for EverBank, which borrowed as much as $250 million.
Banks maximized their borrowings by using subsidiaries to tap Fed programs at the same time. In March 2009, Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America drew $78 billion from one facility through two banking units and $11.8 billion more from two other programs through its broker-dealer, Bank of America Securities LLC.
Banks also shifted balances among Fed programs. Many preferred the TAF because it carried less of the stigma associated with the discount window, often seen as the last resort for lenders in distress, according to a January 2011 paper by researchers at the New York Fed.
After the Lehman bankruptcy, hedge funds began pulling their cash out of Morgan Stanley, fearing it might be the next to collapse, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission said in a January report, citing interviews with former Chief Executive Officer John Mack and then-Treasurer David Wong.
Borrowings Surge
Morgan Stanley’s borrowings from the PDCF surged to $61.3 billion on Sept. 29 from zero on Sept. 14. At the same time, its loans from the Term Securities Lending Facility, or TSLF, rose to $36 billion from $3.5 billion. Morgan Stanley treasury reports released by the FCIC show the firm had $99.8 billion of liquidity on Sept. 29, a figure that included Fed borrowings.
“The cash flow was all drying up,” said Roger Lister, a former Fed economist who’s now head of financial-institutions coverage at credit-rating firm DBRS Inc. in New York. “Did they have enough resources to cope with it? The answer would be yes, but they needed the Fed.”
While Morgan Stanley’s Fed demands were the most acute, Citigroup was the most chronic borrower among the largest U.S. banks. The New York-based company borrowed $10 million from the TAF on the program’s first day in December 2007 and had more than $25 billion outstanding under all programs by May 2008, according to Bloomberg data.
Tapping Six Programs
By Nov. 21, when Citigroup began talks with the government to get a $20 billion capital injection on top of the $25 billion received a month earlier, its Fed borrowings had doubled to about $50 billion.
Over the next two months the amount almost doubled again. On Jan. 20, as the stock sank below $3 for the first time in 16 years amid investor concerns that the lender’s capital cushion might be inadequate, Citigroup was tapping six Fed programs at once. Its total borrowings amounted to more than twice the federal Department of Education’s 2011 budget.
Citigroup was in debt to the Fed on seven out of every 10 days from August 2007 through April 2010, the most frequent U.S. borrower among the 100 biggest publicly traded firms by pre- crisis market valuation. On average, the bank had a daily balance at the Fed of almost $20 billion.
‘Help Motivate Others’
“Citibank basically was sustained by the Fed for a very long time,” said Richard Herring, a finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who has studied financial crises.
Jon Diat, a Citigroup spokesman, said the bank made use of programs that “achieved the goal of instilling confidence in the markets.”
JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon said in a letter to shareholders last year that his bank avoided many government programs. It did use TAF, Dimon said in the letter, “but this was done at the request of the Federal Reserve to help motivate others to use the system.”
The bank, the second-largest in the U.S. by assets, first tapped the TAF in May 2008, six months after the program debuted, and then zeroed out its borrowings in September 2008. The next month, it started using TAF again.
On Feb. 26, 2009, more than a year after TAF’s creation, JPMorgan’s borrowings under the program climbed to $48 billion. On that day, the overall TAF balance for all banks hit its peak, $493.2 billion. Two weeks later, the figure began declining.
“Our prior comment is accurate,” said Howard Opinsky, a spokesman for JPMorgan.
‘The Cheapest Source’
Herring, the University of Pennsylvania professor, said some banks may have used the program to maximize profits by borrowing “from the cheapest source, because this was supposed to be secret and never revealed.”
Whether banks needed the Fed’s money for survival or used it because it offered advantageous rates, the central bank’s lender-of-last-resort role amounts to a free insurance policy for banks guaranteeing the arrival of funds in a disaster, Herring said.
An IMF report last October said regulators should consider charging banks for the right to access central bank funds.
“The extent of official intervention is clear evidence that systemic liquidity risks were under-recognized and mispriced by both the private and public sectors,” the IMF said in a separate report in April.
Access to Fed backup support “leads you to subject yourself to greater risks,” Herring said. “If it’s not there, you’re not going to take the risks that would put you in trouble and require you to have access to that kind of funding.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Bradley Keoun in New York at bkeoun@bloomberg.net; Phil Kuntz in New York at Pkuntz1@bloomberg.net.
To contact the editor responsible for this story: David Scheer in New York at dscheer@bloomberg.net.
75 comments
Mike H
Aug. 18, 4:59 p.m.
Taxes: The percentage of income that Americans spend on taxes is the lowest it’s been since 1958
Only if you look at federal income taxes and neglect state and local taxes. While federal taxes have remained pretty consistent between 17.5% and 20%, local taxes have gone from about 5% in the late 50’s to nearly 10% today. So yes, the percent of income Americans spend on taxes is much higher than in 1958.
Ahhh manipulated statistics … a reporters best friend!
Mark Erickson
Aug. 18, 5:30 p.m.
Red Herring?!? Do you know what that means? Because you go on to discuss the claim after your first paragraph. And while pitting “many” liberals vs. “other” conservatives (with the quoted two being paid to be conservative) economists is technical balance, it terrible journalism. See Jay Rosen on the “view from nowhere.” Unfortunately, it prevents you from declaring an answer, like you do in every other point.
Most of this article was fine, but number 3 is a joke and an embarrassment to ProPublica.
carloszeckler
Aug. 18, 5:33 p.m.
Not sure what state you are noting but living in Tenn, I have no state income tax. And when i lived in some states with taxes, the rate never increased as noted 100%?! Most are getting additional revenues from lotteries, property taxes and voter approved tax increases (eg, sales, etc) so one can build huge stadiums to watch sports normally.
Net, the report as outlined was to compare FEDERAL TAXES WITH OECD NATIONS.
HAVING LIVED IN CANADA GERMANY, COSTA RICA, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER TAXES, INCLUDING SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE, ETC, PLUS LOCAL AND PROVINCIAL TAXES, WHICH ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS COMPARISON ALSO.
NET, FACTS ARE STRANGE WHEN ONE “DOES NOT BELIEVE” ….JUST ASK ADAM AND EVE!
WTBoy
Aug. 18, 7:38 p.m.
The independent Tax Foundation calculated that the per capita tax burden for 2010 was 27%. Under President Reagan, it ranged from 29-31%.
This calculation included federal (including taxes labeled something other than taxes like Social Security), corporate, state (including sales, property taxes, and fees), and local taxes.
Daniel De Groot
Aug. 18, 7:51 p.m.
“Politically, the initial stimulus package almost certainly couldn’t have been bigger because the moderate senators who provided the key votes wouldn’t stomach a package over $800 billion”
I have yet to see any evidence that Collins/Snowe/Specter had a hard ceiling figure in mind for stimulus prior to the Obama admin releasing its proposal. Instead, their “ceiling” was simply “less than Obama asked for” – if Obama had asked for $950B, they would have demanded it be $850B, if he had asked for $1 trillion, they would have demanded it be $950.
Obama’s approval was over 70% in spring 2009. I find it really hard to believe the Republicans would really have utterly blocked the stimulus.
At any rate, in a “myth busting” article, this is a subjective opinion of the author and really doesn’t belong, at least absent some strong proof that there were 41 Senators willing to actually block anything over the amount that passed.
Bill Cole
Aug. 19, 3:04 a.m.
Regarding the earlier comments on tax burden, it is helpful to read the text. As it says, the graph of tax burden over time is for *ALL* taxes, and while that graph is crippled by a lack of grid lines (fire your designers or at least train them!) it does show that we are at the lowest total tax load of the period shown. The reason this may *feel* wrong for many people in the middle class (and especially upper middle class) is that de facto tax burdens actually peak in the low 6-digit income range and fall rather swiftly above the last bracket level due to the fact that most people with much higher incomes are able to manipulate it into forms that legally are treated as capital gains: taxed at 15%. That 15% tax rate creates a big incentive to find ways to divert income into capital gains, especially at the very high end.
Jaime Pero
Aug. 19, 5:14 a.m.
Resdidential and building construction is seasonal only in the northern states , but even there work continues once indoor work begins. In midle an southern states work goes year around. My advice: promote resiiedential poejects “for rent”where onerous new credit requirements will not prevent people from having a decent roof over their heads.
Daryl
Aug. 19, 6:39 a.m.
To Mike H,
State income taxes are deductible from Federal income taxes. Congratulations.
Ah, the smell test.
geoff
Aug. 19, 8:59 a.m.
The bottom 50 % of income earners pay no income tax at all. That is why tax revenue is low. A flat tax is the solution. Everyone should have skin in the game and a flat tax could be adjusted to help the poorer of our society.
Dave
Aug. 19, 9:27 a.m.
The comment about 50% of income earners pay no income tax maybe true, but 80% of the US population lives on 15% of the wealth, according to a Pew report. It is best to have lots of money and pay some taxes, or have some money and pay lots of taxes than to have no money and pay no taxes. What do you spend money on when you have no money? You don’t spend money on anything.
Rodrigo
Aug. 19, 9:28 a.m.
geoff, that is a fox news talking point that has no basis in reality. The bottom 50% struggle to afford daily necessities. Creating jobs for those in the bottom 50% who are unemployed or under-employed should be priority number one, not protecting the wealthy.
Mike H
Aug. 19, 9:48 a.m.
@ Daryl
A deduction is not the same as a credit. Thanks for trying though.
Essie
Aug. 19, 10:12 a.m.
As regards Point 6:
You don’t mention the $41 billion dedicated to the Iraq reconstruction that just disappeared into thin air. To this day, it has been unaccounted for. Can you say “graft” or “corruption”? This is related to blindly paying grossly inflated invoices from firms “rebuilding” targeted areas.
When it’s the taxpayers’ money, what the hell, right? You don’t feel the pain. You just spend the money.
John
Aug. 19, 10:36 a.m.
#1 – “…the highest marginal income and corporate tax rates are the lowest they’ve been since World War II…”
I don’t have the time now to do the proper research, but why cherry-pick which are the “lowest they’ve been” if the assertion that taxes are high is false? It seems like what we want is total tax, fee, toll, etc. revenue per capita taken in by governments, no? Any other measurement is playing with semantics.
#2 – So the fact is that it might have helped, but nobody knows? Really? Nobody has actually looked at where the money went and analyzed the possible alternative options? If they haven’t, then no economist you cite should have been given their degree.
#3, #5, #7 – The money should have gone into a single large-scale, public science project. The most successful investment ever made in our history was the Apollo program, which netted a 15:1 return, all told, catapulted science and technology through the roof, and created an obscene number of permanent, well-paid jobs throughout the country, either directly or by turning the science into products.
This trickle-down/trickle-up (Reagan/anti-Reagan, I guess) methodology of trying to find the right person to give free money to is never going to fix things more than trivially (and never has), because it doesn’t attack the root problem that American companies don’t employ Americans to make things that anybody wants to buy.
Giving rich people money to hire Chinese kids to work in a sweat shop doesn’t work. Giving poor people money to buy Chinese-manufactured plasma TVs doesn’t work. What’s so hard about this?
If we must spend directly on people, at least subsidize food and oil prices so that people can survive on less (and make it to their jobs!) and companies can function with fewer surprises.
Anyway, it’s a nice try at debunking, but a lot of this seems just as much opinion and half-factual as the myths themselves.
Michael Grabell
Aug. 19, 11 a.m.
Mike H:
The tax burden being the lowest since 1958 includes federal, state and local taxes. Here’s the link:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2011-05-05-tax-cut-record-low_n.htm
“Americans are paying the smallest share of their income for taxes since 1958, a reflection of tax cuts and a weak economy, a USA TODAY analysis finds.
The total tax burden — for all federal, state and local taxes — dropped to 23.6% of income in the first quarter, according to Bureau of Economic Analysis data.”
Please send a link if there’s another source that you’re using.
Joel
Aug. 19, 11:14 a.m.
The full situation on taxes has been dissected by Reagan adviser Bruce Bartlett at economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/health-care-costs-and-the-tax-burden/?ref=business
As he says, Americans remain the most lightly taxed major nation in the developed world by far.
However, excessive health insurance costs soak up all of the benefits of our lighter taxation. If we had European style taxes and European style benefits, the budget would be in surplus.
As, of course, it was before the tax cut of 2001.
John
Aug. 19, 12:38 p.m.
Joel, there’s a mild flaw in your (and Bartlett’s) argument in that such a path may well also grant us the blessing of European-style debt crises and European-style rioting.
It’s further off-topic, but the healthcare problem could be pretty easily solved by charging people for the actual cost of treatment, rather than whatever the AMA decides doctors are going to charge. When it doesn’t cost fifteen thousand bucks to tie a splint to a broken leg, I’ll be happy to pay for public healthcare. But paying for extortion and to drug our kids senseless? That doesn’t strike me as a bargain, frankly.
Another flaw in Bartlett’s article is simply mathematical. He tells us European taxes are higher than ours, then tells us that families with children get an allowance from the tax revenue that should be viewed as “negative taxes,” showing why Europeans pay them with less of a burden. I’m not sure what to make of it, but either they pay more per person (or household) or less, but he wants it to be both.
As I said earlier, I’m too busy to go off and pull the numbers together, but it seems like Europe is only attractive if you ignore that Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Sweden, France, Germany, and England have all been undergoing some serious problems, these days, far worse than anything we see here on our worst days.
njas2000
Aug. 19, 1:51 p.m.
The following are quotes by FDR which could be said today and be 100% adequate:
The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little.
But while they prate of economic laws, men and women are starving. We must lay hold of the fact that economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings.
Competition has been shown to be useful up to a certain point and no further, but cooperation, which is the thing we must strive for today, begins where competition leaves off.
Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.
In our personal ambitions we are individualists. But in our seeking for economic and political progress as a nation, we all go up or else all go down as one people.
Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country.
Not only our future economic soundness but the very soundness of our democratic institutions depends on the determination of our government to give employment to idle men.
The school is the last expenditure upon which America should be willing to economize.
MFS
Aug. 19, 2:57 p.m.
Are you sure this article wasn’t vetted (it certainly was not edited for balance, fairness, completeness and accuracy) with the White House or Axelrod/Plouffe?
What is so so sad is how journalists have lost their way. This story lacked so much depth and scope it reads like a hardly veiled re-election message explaining why nothing is Obama’s responsibility. WHY is there no discussion of the restraining impact on businesses and the economic recovery of this administration’s choking regulatory initiatives (EPA, NLRB, Interior, Energy, etc…), the large and still being determined cost of Obamacare, the smothering and costly impact of Dodd-Frank without addressing the real cause of the financial meltdown, government housing and mortgage policy executed though Fannie, Freddie and FHLA, the bashing/demonizing of business and the class warfare against the job creators.
Net-net the Obama Administration’s policies do not engender growth, but rather retard it, block it a almost every turn, all while playing to special interests including creating incentives that no business person with any common sense would accept.
I thought Propublica was supposed to bring to the public’s attention information the main stream media didn’t adequately address. Somewhere you have lost your way. This story reads more like you’re making excuses for Obama’s policies being only modestly effective, rather than getting to the heart of the matter, that those policies are infact the headwinds we’re facing.
Being truly supportive of business with actions that drive real growth is what’s needed, NOT more of the same one-time “stimulus” injections of money (we don’t have); transfer payments and one-time projects do NOTcreate any type of sustained economic growth needed for everyone to experience a better life style.
You might consider a followup story unless of course you’re writing to like minded people who have no vision of reality and what it takes to create jobs and growth.
P.J.
Aug. 19, 2:58 p.m.
The bottom 50% of the population control 2% of the wealth! Lets raise their taxes so they have even less wealth! The bottom 50% earn on average $25k and if the average family is 4 people, lets raise their taxes so they can live on even less. Why do they need refrigerators as Fox said,questioning why they need them and I agree. With less money they won’t need one because they won’t be able to buy food
Michael Rogers
Aug. 19, 3:19 p.m.
FDR said all that needs to be learned/done!
I’d guess that his standards are the exact opposite of those of the tea party
Albert Meyer
Aug. 19, 3:40 p.m.
The author must debunk the argument below:
Government cannot spend anything that it does not confiscate from us. Every government program results in a net loss of jobs. If we give the government, say, a hundred million dollars of our hard-earned wages to spend on a government program, it would create jobs [A]. If we withhold the hundred million dollars and instead spend and invest it ourselves, it would also create jobs [B]. If [A] > [B], we should give government at least 90% of our hard-earned wages and, still, there would never be enough workers to go around to fill all the vacancies. (The Soviet Union was run on this myth that [A]>[B])
However, if [B] > [A], as is always the case, we should only give government our hard-earned wages to take care of essential service, not try and encourage home ownership, not subsidize education (government subsidies are the greatest cause of price inflation in education*), not wage wars abroad to democratize or build nations, change regimes and annex oil fields, etc. etc.
* When the home-buy credit expired, home prices dropped. The tax credit just allowed sellers to ask more, because buyers were deluded in believing the government was paying $8,000 of the purchase price.
Singapore’s GDP per capita was $600, below that of Guatemala, 44 years ago. They decided to keep the size of government at about 12% of GDP. Such a small government means the highest individual tax rate is 20% and corporations pay 18%, but manufacturers get tax holidays. Hence, manufacturers, especially those in California, are relocating to Singapore. Malaysia is now copying Singapore.
Small government and low taxes meant that today, GDP per capita in Singapore is close to $43,000, making it the 4th richest country in the world. It has a population of 5 million and it generates $240 billion in GDP for a country one-eight the size of Delaware. Government spending does not create prosperity. Singapore is the 40th largest economy in the world. Greece’s GDP is $300 billion, so large that the global economy is being shaken by its economic woes. Imagine if Greece had adopted the Singapore model. Singapore has no natural resources and has to import all raw materials and agricultural products. United Emirates and Venezuela, just above Singapore in the GDP race have huge oil revenues, without which they would fall well below Singapore. Singapore produces more GDP than Egypt, Nigeria (with its 80 million population and huge oil reserves can’t match Singapore’s GDP), Israel, Chile, Portugal and Algeria. Singapore is still growing at 9% p.a., its long-term growth rate. At this rate, five years from now, Singapore will be in top 30 in the GDP contest. (Washington take note: the highest paid politicians in the world are is Singapore.)
We live in a totally different world. We are now competing against the likes of China, Singapore and even Canada, where they have brought the corporate tax rate down to 15%. Talking about Canada. The country can afford universal health care because it only spends $20 billion a year on defense. They rely on us to defend them. So do Korea, Europe, Taiwan, Australia and a 130 other countries. Including the wars we will spend a trillion dollars on the military this year. Canadian taxpayers won’t spend that in fifty years, sponging of us. It makes no sense to waste money on infrastructure projects in Afghanistan and Iraq (a billion dollar embassy the size of the Vatican and 14 military bases).
As noted, many US corporations have moved their manufacturing facilities to Singapore, in part to enjoy the tax holiday and lower labor costs. Capital flows to areas where the returns are the highest. High labor costs and high taxes depress returns, hence capital goes abroad. We can’t create jobs without capital. Higher taxes chase capital abroad. It is self-evident logic.
The government collects less than $250 billion a year in corporate tax, and that is at a 35% rate. If they cut the rate, like in Canada to 15%, a lot of capital will come back from abroad and create jobs here in the US. We think they should give manufacturers here in the US a tax-free holiday for at least five years, and lower corporate tax for all others to 15%. They can fund these tax cuts by cutting the defense budget by $500 billion a year and tell our allies that in future they would have to take of their own defense.
Firing missiles into Libya has nothing to do with our safety: oil and military interests alone drive these military misadventures. Excluding Social Security and Medicare (self-funding through payroll contributions), the 2011 budget will amount to $2.215 trillion. Military spending of $712 billion (not including cost of wars, Veterans Administration and Homeland Security) comprises 32% of the budget. We are defending 130 countries with 900 military bases. Homeland defense would cost a fraction, but this budget item evidence of the overbearing influence of the military-industrial complex.
clarence swinney
Aug. 19, 4:40 p.m.
6 can you recall 6 numbers
a few simple numbers tel what Warren buffett said:“Class warfare?Yes! My side is winning”
No Warren Your Side has WON.
5% own 62% Net Wealth
80% own 15%
20% own 93% Financial Wealth
80% own 7%
25% get 62% individual income
70,000,000 get 13%
62/15 93/7 62./13 = class warfare won
Democrats will not tell the people Will You? 6 numbers
6 numbers that could win an election
clarenceswinney Lifeaholics of america
taxfoundatiom.org 2008 tax summary
WAdem
Aug. 19, 4:49 p.m.
Jon Stewart had an excellent segment on 8/18 regarding the Republican view that we can’t solve our debt problem by increasing taxes by 4% (from 35 to 39%) on the richest Americans which is about $700 Bn over the next decade. He shows the usual Fox News demagoguery and, then takes the other side. He goes along with Fox by taking half of the total net worth of the bottom 50% of the population which also equals $700 Bn. In other words, if slightly increasing taxes by just 4% on the upper income earners is not practical, how can the rich argue that taking half of the entire net worth of the bottom 50% of Americans is somehow fair? The facts are undeniable. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare—-the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over?xrs=share_copy
stephan
Aug. 19, 6:20 p.m.
You’re misrepresenting Singapore, it’s is one of the most tightly regulated mixed economies in the world – more than half of their economy is composed of state owned monopolies and government imposes very strict economic planning. While base taxation rates may seem low, you’re ignoring high import taxes and fee-based usage of public facilities, and value added taxes.
Holding up tax rates as the primary condition for growth is too simplistic, it’s like saying all you need to build a good race car is to slap on the biggest engine you can find.
Albert Meyer
Aug. 19, 6:34 p.m.
Stephan, I am not advocating Singapore’s social or political systems. I am saying that when you analyze the country’s phenomenal economic success, it is closely linked to low taxes and small government, not unlike Hong-Kong. Cuba, on the other hand, is the antithesis of Singapore where government expenditures are equal to 85% of GDP. Nothing wrong with government imposing strict economic planning, but then it steps aside and allow private capital to operate within the planning limits. No I am not ignoring those taxes. This is the way to tax. Allow people to keep their hard-earned wages and then tax them indirectly. These taxes are more than adequate to meet government expenditures because of the small size of the government.
If government expenditures and budget deficits create jobs, then no country in the world has ever seen the kind of spending and deficits that we have experienced during the past decade, and we have the highest unemployment rate in 50 years… maybe longer.
Robert
Aug. 19, 8:32 p.m.
Nomi Prinz writes, “Basically, what all these numbers show is that; public debt has nearly doubled since before the big bailout, while intragovernmental debt has increased just 15%. Some (like Geithner, Bernanke, etc.) may argue that this balloon in public debt was required to save our economy, though there’s little evidence of it doing anything but cheaply floating our financial system, not least because nearly half of the additional $4.4 trillion of public debt that was created is stashed at the Fed as either excess reserves or QE2.
Rich S.
Aug. 19, 11:17 p.m.
John Taylor was on NPR a few days ago with Stiglitz. Taylor spewed the list of Republican talking points, without anything of value. Are you sure you want to use him as a credible source?
Bill amichtom
Aug. 20, 2:35 a.m.
Another reason the “red Herring” claim is fallacious is that Obama provided no pressure to get the conservative Dems to change their votes. When the Progressive Caucus said they would not vote for war funding, Obama told them they wouldn’t get DNC funding for their campaigns. They came around.
He never did this with the DINOs.
Roger Burgess
Aug. 20, 2:37 a.m.
Albert said, “Government cannot spend anything that it does not confiscate from us.”
And with that, you lost your credibility. Anything further you have to say on the topic of political or economic policy should not be given much weight.
I mean, you could, at the very least, update your political philosophy to John Locke’s era.
Libertarians have spent the last 30 years debunking their own arguments by practicing them. They didn’t work so well in the era where slavery was legal, what makes you think they work well now?
max
Aug. 20, 7:23 a.m.
I saw a poll just before the 2010 election that verified 60% of Republican voters believed their taxes had risen between 2008 and 2010 when they had, in fact, fallen. Voters who believed their taxes had risen often cited the Affordable Care Act, which the CMS actuaries now tell us is reducing Medicare spending preemptively because most of the provisions have not kicked in yet. I don’t think its honorable to rail against parts of the polity because they are misinformed or uninformed – we are all in this together, sink or swim – but what the media now calls “low information voters” is becoming a national problem when these huge economic considerations become part of national elections. The Founders said we needed an informed electorate to make this republic work and we are failing them very badly. To reiterate, taxes have not gone up and the stimulus bill’s main problem was that it contained anothr $284 billion in unneeded tax breaks instead of more direct aid to the states for infrastructure projects. Did it work? Yes and no, but probably as well as it could have given our divisive politics and voter apathy. We are in real trouble if the next election is a repeat of the last one.
Bruce
Aug. 20, 7:58 a.m.
No Public Works Admin here. Perhaps, when the next major Act of God
strikes a very Red state, we should stand & watch. If they scream, we
should calmly & politely noted they’ve been shouting how Uncle Sam
is a monster. Not a scenario I wish but the shock that’s needed. BTW,
what makes us Americans? That is, in significant part, an economic &
financial question.
Tom
Aug. 20, 8:39 a.m.
Albert Meyer, where can I read more of your stiff?
Bruce
Aug. 20, 10:48 a.m.
Singapore is a very much government directed success story. Their educational & health systems, housing & transportation infrastructure
did not pop out of nowhere. It is very dynamic but not a democracy. Should there be any governments? If not, who makes the decisions & controls the assets, including especially the human ones?
Greg D
Aug. 20, 11:03 a.m.
This person MAY have the facts correct, BUT the conclusion that wealth should be equal is…wrong and …well communism,… the best, brightest, and hardest working WILL have more wealth then the vast majority of us. That is just a fact, and the sad fact is I’m not one of them…yet?
clarence swinney
said
Yesterday, 4:40 p.m.
6 can you recall 6 numbers
a few simple numbers tel what Warren buffett said:“Class warfare?Yes! My side is winning”
No Warren Your Side has WON.
5% own 62% Net Wealth
80% own 15%
20% own 93% Financial Wealth
80% own 7%
25% get 62% individual income
70,000,000 get 13%
LorenEberly
Aug. 20, 12:59 p.m.
It’s US the Government of this Representative Republic responsibility to impeach President and recall every Representative of US the Government. That defies demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce?
Demanding every corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service. Of every workers, consumers, and taxpayers living including pension and health care. Enabling parents to love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide, for every child (job) they conceive and fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages or independent business profit.
Kimberly
Aug. 20, 1:07 p.m.
Greg D, the conclusion is that a nation’s long-term prosperity (meaning prosperity for the greatest number of people) and well-being depends on it being able to meet its very legitimate needs, and we are seeing that this is increasingly impossible under conservative economic philosophy and policy. If the U.S. can’t do that then there really is no reason to pretend we are the UNITED States of America.
Kimberly
Aug. 20, 1:17 p.m.
Additionally, conservatives don’t seem to grasp that we’re a complex state level society with various forms of built in stratification, not an unusually large band of egalitarian hunter gathers.
Shawn
Aug. 20, 1:36 p.m.
Half of the people in America pay no taxes so the “average” is mathematically irrelevant. Over the period of time that this article purports to cover, taxes on those that actually have a tax burden have gone up. Also, the cost of compliance of exponentially increased regulations on investing, business, etc. have become a further burden on those that pay taxes and create jobs. Those costs are not accounted for here as an obligation to the government that further takes from those that are successful.
The author of this piece did a lousy, cursory job that unfairly distorts the facts. Continue the distortion and class warfare and those with money will continue to find other ways to deploy it besides creation of jobs.
This continues to be the Marxist checklist towards Socialism plain and simple.
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm. See #‘s 15, 30, 32, 36, 37 specifically as it relates to this article.
Glory
Aug. 20, 1:40 p.m.
You state opinions as facts! I say it’s a bunch of manipulated propaganda crap! And you’re spouting it like we’re mental incompetents. Go back to good reporting and stop allowing yourself to be the mouth piece of corporate interests.
JJM
Aug. 20, 3:49 p.m.
I really can’t stand the way the GOP keeps coming up with one fantasy after the next to lure voters and simultaneously blow smoke in their eyes: so they won’t see the party’s true aims and their true raison d’être: to keep chipping away at the wealth, happiness and rights of those without super piles of money.
The NYT ran letters the other day with people pro and con Warren Buffett’s editorial on taxing the rich. One of them, from a Club for Growth person I think. was to the effect that of course there are people with huge piles of capital because this is a capitalist society.
“Of course.” But what this nutjob does NOT realize is that:1) the idea that some just happen to grow superrich under capitalism is not supposed to be true of modern rational capitalism.
This kind of capitalism where only a few profit immensely and disproportionately is what Max Weber labeled ‘BOOTY’ capitalism.Weber said that booty capitalism was both technically pre-rational capitalism [remember the ‘Robber Barons”] and that not only did it run counter to whatever was good rational capitalism could do, it would actually DESTROY capitalism if it continued to run unfettered.
2) the fact that NO ONE can really accumulate huge riches without impoverishing their neighbor. I don’t think moderate capitalism MUST always do this, but BOOTY capitalism always does.
Bruce
Aug. 20, 6 p.m.
Remember the Reagan epoch, “the one who ends up with the most toys wins?” …. Up until about a year ago, it seemed we were experiencing vampiric capitalism—- now, cannibalistic capitalism appears more exacting. The financial & extractive industries are in overdrive to destroy all life & for good measure – disembowel the planet – simply because it can be done.
Albert Meyer
Aug. 20, 8:19 p.m.
Tom
Today, 8:39 a.m.
Albert Meyer, where can I read more of your stuff?
Tom, here: Change the XX to tt… scroll down and look for my name
hXXp://www.propublica.org/blog/item/as-debt-limit-deadline-draws-closer-we-explain-what-default-could-mean
Albert Meyer
Aug. 20, 8:36 p.m.
Roger Burgess
Albert said, “Government cannot spend anything that it does not confiscate from us.”
And with that, you lost your credibility. Anything further you have to say on the topic of political or economic policy should not be given much weight.”
Come on Roger. I never claimed to have any credibility. However, you know I’m right when I say that “it is all self-evident logic.” So, you have to attack my credibility. Well, I have zero credibility. I’m just am old bum. Spare me dime, guy.
Now, if you want more wars, more money for the war profiteers, more money for special interests, more deficits, more debt, more stimulus spending, more welfare, more warfare, look up the Treasury’s website and make some additional contributions to this great machine of economic growth, the creator of wealth and prosperity, called the government.
Fact is (self-evident) all George Bush and Barack Obama’s horses and men could not get this Humpty Dumpty economy together again, despite record deficits, record borrowing, record stimulus spending, record money printing, yeah, even a record number of trillion dollar wars (Paul Krugman’s favorite means of stimulating the economy).
Time to look at other alternatives. The smaller the government, the greater the people’s prosperity. Incontrovertible truth. Ask the folks in Cuba and Venezuela about big government spending. I own stock in a steel company that had a subsidiary, huge steel mill, in Venezuela. It was very profitable. The government nationalized it a couple of years ago. The bureaucrats ran it into the ground. Now they are importing steel from the parent company of the subsidiary that they nationalized. This is not unique to Venezuela, as the Soviet Union, East Germany and North Korea taught us.
Keith
Aug. 20, 8:57 p.m.
Geoff.
The 50 percent you alluded to is a FAUX talking point and a misguided one at that, for multiple reasons.
First, that figure was from 2009; an anomaly. In that year, two things occurred which exempted a greater number of people – the “Making Work Pay” tax cut and the exemption from taxes on the first $2400 for the unemployed. Generally, the 50 percent you refer to is in the 38-39 percent range.
Also, that figure does not include payroll tax. Given that incomw tax is just one of several FEDERAL taxes, your FAUX induced talking points are very misguided.
BTW, the top 400 Americans own more than the bottom 150 million Americans.
Robert Holmgren
Aug. 20, 9:41 p.m.
“but widely-cited economic models show it probably prevented a deeper downturn.”
Nice use of weasel wording. Measuring ‘what ifs’ and ‘probably’ isn’t proof of of anything except the ability of people to make stuff up. The FACT is that things did not improve by the measure set out at the time.
Winston Smith
Aug. 20, 11:23 p.m.
the most important myth to debunk about the amerikan economy, let alone the global economy, is that you can’t have infinite growth on a finite planet: period.
this article does not separate fact from fiction.
and it certainly isn’t, “Journalism in the public interest”.
it is propaganda in the corporate-fascist-capitalist debt-as-money System interest.
the cold, harsh, indifferent fact is, we’re not going to grow, consume, indebt and complicate our way out of the problems of growth, consumption, debt and complexity:
“The world population, currently at seven billion, is well beyond Earth’s ability to sustain. By 2050, with a projected population of 10 billion people and without a change in consumption patterns, the cumulative use of natural resources will amount to the productivity of up to 27 planet Earths, the study found.
“Sustaining the current seven billion people on the planet requires a major shift in resource use. At present, the average U.S. citizen’s ecological footprint is about 10 hectares, while a Haitian’s is less than one. The planet could sustain us if everyone’s footprint averaged two ha, Mora said.”
- http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=56685
doesn’t matter which modern, industrial, infinite-growth political-fantasy you subscribe to: fake-Left, nonexistent-Middle or real-Right.
until pseudo-journalists (State propagandists) like Michael Grabell find the guts and integrity to report the Truth, People will continue to get the Shaft.
and rebuilding car-dependent infrastructure—roads, highways, bridges, etcetera—in the age of Peak Oil (1) will be a tragic waste and counterproductive boondoggle.
i continually return to Kirkpatrick Sale’s prescient words from his 2005 article titled, Imperial Entropy:
“Jared Diamond’s recent book detailing the ways societies collapse suggests that American society, or industrial civilization as a whole, once it is aware of the dangers of its current course, can learn from the failures of the past and avoid their fates. But it will never happen, and for a reason Diamond himself understands.
“As he says, in his analysis of the doomed Norse society on Greenland that collapsed in the early 15th century: ‘The values to which people cling most stubbornly under inappropriate conditions are those values that were previously the source of their greatest triumphs over adversity.’ If this is so, and his examples would seem to prove it, then we can isolate the values of American society that have been responsible for its greatest triumphs and know that we will cling to them no matter what. They are, in one rough mixture, capitalism, individualism, nationalism, technophilia, and humanism (as the dominance of humans over nature). There is no chance whatever, no matter how grave and obvious the threat, that as a society that we will abandon those.
Hence no chance to escape the collapse of empire.”
- http://www.energybulletin.net/node/4474
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(1) http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2009.06-energy-an-inconvenient-talk/
(2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed
max
Aug. 21, 9:38 a.m.
From the Article: “One of the most prominent studies on the stimulus [14] was put out by the economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi in July 2010. The pair concluded that while the bank bailout and actions by the Federal Reserve had a greater impact in ending the recession, the stimulus was a critical part of the remedy. “We do not believe it a coincidence that the turnaround from recession to recovery occurred last summer, just as the ARRA was providing its maximum economic benefit,” they wrote.”
@ Robert Holmgren
“What if” you read the whole analysis instead of making things up or quoting half-sentences out of context.
ibsteve2u
Aug. 21, 2:39 p.m.
People need to spend a little time thinking about just exactly what the Republicans have already done and now wish to inflict upon the American people.
1) Our economy works because of the flow of wealth
2) Our economy’s circulatory system has had great gushing wounds inflicted upon it which are inhibiting that flow:
a) Flood-up/trickle-down economics allows the wealthy to sequester vast amounts and effectively remove that wealth from circulation forever, and further incentivizes the suppression of American salaries and wages…what they don’t pay you, they can keep.
b) Deregulation allows the wealthy to drain the savings of the American people…so what they do pay you, they can siphon off at a later date (at their whim, and strangely routinely, don’t you think? lolll..like with “S&P downgrades”?)
c) Enforced oil payments – payments that not only drain our economy, but fund the purchase of the materials of war that the Middle Eastern nations use against their own citizens, Israel, Europe, the former territories of the U.S.S.R., and us
d) Monster trade deficits…deficits we’re destined to keep not only because our wealthy are making great sums of money eradicating American jobs but because offshore nations realize that it is to their advantage to rig their currency exchange rates to keep America non-competitive; we have taught them that wars can be won both with weapons and by accumulating the means of transforming raw materials into useful things (which would also include weapons, of course)
e) And apparently because the other methods weren’t working fast enough, the enormous expenses of a mismanaged war in Afghanistan and a totally and outstandingly bogus war in Iraq.
3) To date, we have coped with these great gushing wounds in the circulatory system that is our economy in much the same way the emergency room saves you after you introduce your car to a bridge abutment: By pumping new blood in…or printing money, as it were.
4) The right – lead by Perry – is beginning to demand that we stop printing money; they’re even going so far as to label the act “treason”. Understand that if we keep bleeding at the rate we are and we stop printing money, our economy will die when the flow of money that is its lifeblood stops.
Understand that when the economy stops in a capitalistic society, then the tens…hundreds of millions who are dependent upon the that economy perforce will suffer and likely die. I see no alternative to concluding that is what, in fact, the right seeks….that is what Perry and the Republicans seek: Suffering and, eventually, death; on a massive scale…at a level that will even surpass the 1930s, for the right have despised and sought to destroy all things FDR continuously over the intervening 80 years and will do what they can – anything and everything they can – to ensure we cannot be saved again.
That is not hyperbole; look at what the Republicans have done to America…look at where America stands (wobbles, rather) today…look at what the Republicans seek in speech after speech after speech.
We are at war…get used to the idea, and you might be able to save your kids, if not yourselves.
Albert Meyer
Aug. 21, 4:21 p.m.
ibsetve, your analysis is pretty good, except for the fact that you blame it on the Republicans. (I hate the GOP Politburo with a passion.)
The same special interests that fund the political campaigns of Republicans also bankroll Democrats. Correct?
The two parties both espouse welfare and warfare; maybe in varied proportions, but in the end it’s a wash. Correct?
Regardless of who is in power, the war profiteers, the bankers and special interests continue to loot the Treasury through lucrative contracts, tax loopholes and a host of others means in which they enrich themselves as our expense – as you so lucidly point out. Correct?
Congress (except for Ron Paul) is utterly beholden to special interests. Both parties bequeathed $14 trillion of debt to us, our children and our grandchildren. Heaven help us when interest rates start to go up. Our current $200 billion interest bill could reach a trillion dollars. Correct?
Go Green. Recycle Congress.